laws

to be continued: intial thoughts. To what extent do laws deter crime? What is more important - a value system in which people do not commit crimes, or a system of punishment to jail people after the fact. Is crime prevention more effective? If so, what would this model look like? Do laws have any affect except to serve the power of the state? even failed states have laws, but too many people break them to jail them. So it seems that norms are more important. Laws are better seen as a reflection of the power of the state.
perhaps laws are seen as "justice". is justice punishment? or perhaps justice is a society in which no crime exists.